Saturday, October 07, 2006

A handful of PLO8 cash game hands for analysis

Hand 1


Here's a limper I came in with on the button
Dealt to FrankNagaiJr [Ac 8c Tc 5s]
There were four other players in

Let's compare with some made up hands to give us a pre-flop percentage:
Random collection 1 with some decent starting hands

5s Ac Tc 8c 8214 29748 166085 5543 1416 89204 34236 0.147
Qc Ad 5h 2h 11536 22559 176673 2144 62298 24109 34236 0.269
3s Kd Kh 4h 19742 41180 160127 69 30489 31997 54 0.215
Ks Qs Jd Th 25656 55065 145903 408 0 0 0 0.201
8s 5c 9h 6h 11577 46009 149812 5555 7390 113253 0 0.168

You can see that despite having some week middle cards, it's not a huge dog with this many cards in play. I'm 5.5 to 1 against, and getting 4 to 1 pre-flop odds, so if I collect even a little, it's a break-even play. And with the following flop, I reraised the frequent flop stealer to take it down uncontested, and my return was 7 to 1, so only a slight playoff.

*** FLOP *** [6h Td Ts]

Of course, I'll need to change the fourth hand above to justify the folds all the way around.

When I change random hand #4 to a 9 instead of a ten, my pre-flop goes up to 18% (closer to 4 to 1) and my post-flop percentage explains all of the folds.

5s Ac Tc 8c 170 260 138 8 0 110 18 0.550
Qc Ad 5h 2h 10 10 396 0 77 30 18 0.119
3s Kd Kh 4h 32 33 373 0 41 14 0 0.131
Ks Qs 9s Jd 22 25 381 0 0 0 0 0.058
8s 6s 5c 9h 37 70 328 8 0 89 0 0.142

Hand 2


Here's a hand I call a late position steal raise with:
Dealt to FrankNagaiJr [6s Ah 7s 3s]
And the raiser in our heads up: 4c 8c Qd Ac

Here's the preflop numbers

Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 500000 sampled boards
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
7s 6s 3s Ah 172105 212258 287609 133 191509 55268 6412 0.482
Ac 8c 4c Qd 192090 287609 212258 133 64172 148500 6412 0.518

Apparently the suited Ace and the Queen high compensate for the worse low draw., but I've clearly got justification for calling.

Here's the flop:
*** FLOP *** [2c 3d 6c]
And I love that this counerfeits a lot of raising hands and leaves me with a better two pair than anybody who raised with A23X. I couldn't know that I was behind on the low, but we ended up chopping high/low.

Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing 6c 2c 3d
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
7s 6s 3s Ah 0 459 361 0 0 703 117 0.316
Ac 8c 4c Qd 322 361 459 0 703 0 117 0.684

Hand 3


Here's a bizarre call I made with position on a guy who liked to raise anytime he came in. I'm in the cutoff here.
Dealt to FrankNagaiJr [8h 9s 8c 2h]

Pharrell1337: folds
WellHungJury: folds
Pharrell1337 leaves the table
adelbomb: raises $0.35 to $0.60
FrankNagaiJr: calls $0.60
ryanrunrut: calls $0.60
GitmoLovin': folds
xKillButtonx: calls $0.35

The only hand I actually was was the button, who was actually a slight underdog to me:

9s 8c 8h 2h 200684 335419 164581 0 3491 161560 612 0.539
6c 2c 4d 3h 161626 164581 335419 0 250842 0 612 0.461

Let's assume that the raiser and caller had reasonable O8 hands and see where I stand:

If they both have very good starters with two overpairs to my 8s, I'm 5.5 to 1 against

9s 8c 8h 2h 28117 88490 288502 0 0 139604 0 0.155
6c 2c 4d 3h 28018 62341 314651 0 82237 113420 2862 0.207
Ac Kc 5d Kh 83749 120464 255520 1008 13866 87552 2079 0.287
As Ts Td 2d 74933 104689 271295 1008 105863 28854 4887 0.352

If they have reasonable cards, but not overpairs to my pair, with no better heart draw, I'm only 4 to 1 against:

s 8c 8h 2h 48247 107703 269181 108 0 124968 0 0.207
6c 2c 4d 3h 32834 60587 316405 0 77504 101266 2862 0.208
Ac Kc 7d 5d 50039 87038 288257 1697 13144 127376 2079 0.199

Put a better heart draw out, and I'm back to 5.5 to 1 against:

9s 8c 8h 2h 32735 84389 292474 129 0 124968 0 0.156
6c 2c 4d 3h 38996 71958 305034 0 77504 101266 2862 0.225
Ac Kc 7d 5d 56322 98769 276033 2190 13144 127376 2079 0.221
Jd 2d Ah Th 93432 119557 255116 2319 95403 24678 4887 0.398

And here's the flop:
Qc 7h 5h

That's favorable for me. I've got a gutshot and a flush draw, and second pair, so even if I get action, it's worth a shot, especially with a smallish bet and me closing the action.

xKillButtonx: bets $0.50
adelbomb: folds
FrankNagaiJr: calls $0.50
ryanrunrut: calls $0.50

I really think the turn helped me out, as I didn't think a pair of queens would have stayed, and two pair with the queen should have raised into that flop. Of course, this makes a low draw a bad deal also.

*** TURN *** [Qc 7h 5h] [Qs]
xKillButtonx: checks
FrankNagaiJr: bets $1
ryanrunrut: calls $1
xKillButtonx: folds

Here's the actual percentages
9s 8c 8h 2h 23 35 5 0 0 13 0 0.725
6c 2c 4d 3h 5 5 35 0 17 0 0 0.275

My opponent has a weak low draw, and an outside straight draw.

*** RIVER *** [Qc 7h 5h Qs] [6h]
FrankNagaiJr: bets $3
ryanrunrut: calls $3

And my opponent calls down thinking he has a shot at the high on a paired flushy board??? Did he really think he had a shot at the low? Perhaps I needed to bet more....